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The Profile menu has its own Help submenu which is the problem when Profiler is an integral part of NetBeans IDE. Recommendation: Move those items that make sense in the "big IDE" from the "Profile | Help" menu into the main Help menu. This is the recommendation for the new Help menu: | Help | -------- Help Contents Tutorials > Java BluePrints Solutions Docs and Support Online ---------------------------- Javadoc Index Search Javadoc References > ---------------------------- Keyboard Shortcuts ---------------------------- Welcome About This issue should be fixed for 6.0 M10. Please reassign to responsible engineer.
Where should the Profiler help item go? Listed under Tutorials? I am not sure if "Tutorials" is the proper term in the menu. We should have a list of the items that will appear under this menu item to get a better idea of the content. Also what are the criteria that qualifies an item being included under Tutorials instead of on the Docs and Support page? Is Docs and Support sufficiently informative? Currently listed under Tutorials: > NetBeans Platform Tutorial > Quick Start Guide > Using NetBeans IDE
I would say the Profiler help should not stay in its current form. So it's not only about finding the right place for its menu item. Looking at the existing help system for NetBeans, the Profiler help should integrate as: - multiple pages into Help Contents window - a separate section into "Using NetBeans IDE" guide - a separate "Profiling Quick Start Guide" visible in Help | Tutorials menu (not sure about this one) - somehow with the Docs and Supporte pages on nb.org (not sure how exactly) The writers team is the right one to come up with suggestions for the Help menu. I would try to review it and provide feedback.
View and Help submenus removed from Profile menu. Docs team please suggest new menu items for general Help menu for M10.
Resetting target milestone - wasn't implemented for M10. Waiting for docs team suggestions.
I don't think there should be a separate menu item. The profiler help should be a part of the basic Java app help.
I'm sorry but it doesn't seem you have all the information required to decide this problem. There's much more documentation available for Profiler than just a JavaHelp - for example HTML docs which should be turned into tutorial/guide or something like that. That's the decision I'm asking for - what kind of documentation will be available and where it should be placed in Help menu.
We are intentionally keeping the Help menu limited and general, so it's not going to point to every tutorial or group of tutorials (if that was the case, there could be dozens of the items on the menu, which would make it ugly and hard to manage). I believe that Ken is folding the HTML docs that you are talking about into the Using NetBeans Guide.
I'll accept whatever solution, just please make the final decision, make sure that usability/HIE are OK with it and eventually close this issue. I would suggest to try to use the profiler without any previous knowledge just based on the JavaHelp (no screenshots and detailed information). If you are able to profile without problem, then it's all OK, if not, it would be a regression because till now the guide was available for the profiler for first-time users.
am switching this issue over to usersguide. The issue started about where to include references to the Profiler web doc helpset, but this issue concerns the items that should be listed under the Help menu in the IDE and is not limited to the Profiler items.
we should try to fix and close this issue this week. I believe the current proposal is the following: | Help | -------- Help Contents Java BluePrints Solutions Docs and Support Online ---------------------------- Javadoc Index Search Javadoc References > ---------------------------- Keyboard Shortcuts ---------------------------- Welcome About if this is agreed, we should implement with engineering and close the issue. btw, Java BluePrints menu item is still not appearing in menu in builds [ie 20070724] is this going to reappear sometime in the future?
Switching the issue to utilities. The order of the help menu is defined in the menu spec here: See http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/MainMenu#section-MainMenu-Help
Note that "Online Docs and Support" in the spec uses the same link as the current "Support & Docs" and "Keyboard Shortcuts Card" uses the same link as the current "Keyboard Shortcuts"
I have done all modifications necessary in the Utilities module. Modified files: utilities/src/org/netbeans/modules/url/Bundle.properties (1.57) utilities/src/org/netbeans/modules/utilities/Layer.xml (1.98) Diffs: http://utilities.netbeans.org/source/browse/utilities/src/org/netbeans/modules/url/Bundle.properties?r1=1.56&r2=1.57&diff_format=u http://utilities.netbeans.org/source/browse/utilities/src/org/netbeans/modules/utilities/Layer.xml?r1=1.97&r2=1.98&diff_format=u More changes are necessary in other modules (e.g. rename "Welcome Screen" to "Welcome", change mnemonic characters). Reassigned to "ui/welcome".
Mnemomonic of Help|Welcome screen fixed. /shared/data/ccvs/repository/ide/welcome/src/org/netbeans/modules/welcome/Bundle.properties,v <-- Bundle.properties new revision: 1.8; previous revision: 1.7 Passing to javahelp. OTOH this way of bug handling is not very effective. It would be better to file more specific bugs against components and link to this umbrella.
Fixed mnemonic for item 'Javadoc Index Search': /cvs/javadoc/src/org/netbeans/modules/javadoc/search/Bundle.properties new revision: 1.66; previous revision: 1.65 Passing to cnd as there is item 'C/C++ Development Pack FAQ' as first item in Help submenu.
CND's FAQ help menu has now been removed (http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=112796). Itshould fix this IZ too although I'm not sure whether there are remaining issues. Pls re-open and reassign if there is.